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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/200819198" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#200819198">(Jun 14 2020 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>What's the process to propose a new group? AVR was recently merged.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/200931820" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jonas Schievink  [he/him] <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#200931820">(Jun 15 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>This PR adds a RISC-V group, maybe just open a similar PR for AVR? <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/362">https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/362</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/200947600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#200947600">(Jun 15 2020 at 21:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Clearly we need to make a checklist</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/200947607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#200947607">(Jun 15 2020 at 21:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are actually a few steps required</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/200963943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#200963943">(Jun 16 2020 at 01:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> let me know what those are (or a link to the checklist) whenever you figure it out; no huge rush!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/201882663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#201882663">(Jun 24 2020 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Any updates <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202026493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202026493">(Jun 25 2020 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>whoops forgot about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202026530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202026530">(Jun 25 2020 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> is this just to make a group, or did we want to declare AVR as Tier 2 or Tier 3</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202027745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202027745">(Jun 25 2020 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Mostly just the group so we can get notified about O-AVR issues people raise. </p>
<p>It’s nowhere near tier 2. It’s been merged, so I assumed that was tier 3 by default.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202140972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202140972">(Jun 26 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK that sounds fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202140981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202140981">(Jun 26 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah we can make a group readily enough</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202298226" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202298226">(Jun 29 2020 at 11:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cool — what should I do next?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202298565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202298565">(Jun 29 2020 at 11:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> Not on the compiler team but I believe the process is that you should propose a major change for adding AVR group similar to this one. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/293">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/293</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202299313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202299313">(Jun 29 2020 at 11:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> that's what was <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F/near/200931820">suggested earlier</a>, but <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F/near/200947600">Niko cautioned that wasn't enough</a>, so I'm waiting to hear what the checklist is so I don't cause people undue work.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202299484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202299484">(Jun 29 2020 at 12:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s a PR adding the AVR group to the team roster. I was suggesting you create a new Major Change Proposal, which would be the first step in getting a group added to team.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202299569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202299569">(Jun 29 2020 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>At least that’s how it worked for Windows &amp; ARM.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202299614" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202299614">(Jun 29 2020 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, true. My point about not inciting Niko's ire is still a point though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202475749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202475749">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> OK sorry -- so -- honestly I don't think we need so much process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202475788" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202475788">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I think making an MCP could be a good idea just for the purposes of letting people know it's happening</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202475791" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202475791">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll make a check-list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202475806" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202475806">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also an Inside Rust blog post might be a good way to advertise</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202475814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202475814">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>this isn't really taking on any new support obligations</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202476093" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202476093">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK doke, I can start up a MCP soon.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202476100" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202476100">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202476196" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202476196">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm creating a forge page with a list of steps</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202476233" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202476233">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I think I agree with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> that, as a general process, let's make an MCP be a first step, it's easy and simple</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR%20Target%20Group%3F/near/202477394" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/AVR.20Target.20Group.3F.html#202477394">(Jun 30 2020 at 18:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-forge/pull/393">draft</a> -- have to run</p>



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